[FreeVMS] Question about FreeVMS qemu image

[Renee]

“One of the reason of the success of Unix is that it was written in a
portable language: C. C and C++  have been used to program all Unices,
Windows, Apple OS (With some Objective-C) etc...”

 

I am not a user. I am a developer from Spitbrook. I did host-based
Shadowing.

 

C is used because it was free and given away. It was not because of any
logic of C over Bliss as languages although Bliss has not been updated in
god knows how long.

 

Renee

 

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Le 25.09.2013 15:26, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : 

Renee wrote: 



I am in the process of moving. I am a former VMS developer. I wrote to ask 
what languages you are using. If it's C, VMS developers HATED C. 
I would like to help/join the effort but I would recommend Bliss. 


    I think that we have to build a kernel (or a set of servers in L4
paradigm) that is portable. I'm not sure that bliss is good enough to reach
this goal. I'm not sure there is somewhere a open sourced bliss compiler
that is stable and usable. And I'm not sure that there are bliss developers
enough to start this project with bliss. 

    That being said, I know that VMS users hate C. But I don't know why we
cannot use a subset of C functionalities to cut of all "hatable"
functionalities. 



One of the reason of the success of Unix is that it was written in a
portable language: C. C and C++  have been used to program all Unices,
Windows, Apple OS (With some Objective-C) etc...

On the other hand:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLISS

" It was perhaps the best known systems programming language right up until
C <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29>  made its
debut a few years later. Since then, C took off and BLISS faded into
obscurity."

Of course C was hatable in the 70s when VMS started to live. In the mean
time not only it had improved a bit, but now the debate is not using C but
C++ for this kind of things.

Remi

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