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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>“One of the reason of the success of Unix is that it was written in a portable language: C. C and C++ have been used to program all Unices, Windows, Apple OS (With some Objective-C) etc...”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am not a user. I am a developer from Spitbrook. I did host-based Shadowing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>C is used because it was free and given away. It was not because of any logic of C over Bliss as languages although Bliss has not been updated in god knows how long.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Renee<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> FreeVMS [mailto:freevms-bounces@rayleigh.systella.fr] <b>On Behalf Of </b>rc_gmail_imap<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> FreeVMS mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FreeVMS] Question about FreeVMS qemu image<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Le 25.09.2013 15:26, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Renee wrote: <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I am in the process of moving. I am a former VMS developer. I wrote to ask <br>what languages you are using. If it's C, VMS developers HATED C. <br>I would like to help/join the effort but I would recommend Bliss. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br> I think that we have to build a kernel (or a set of servers in L4 paradigm) that is portable. I'm not sure that bliss is good enough to reach this goal. I'm not sure there is somewhere a open sourced bliss compiler that is stable and usable. And I'm not sure that there are bliss developers enough to start this project with bliss. <br><br> That being said, I know that VMS users hate C. But I don't know why we cannot use a subset of C functionalities to cut of all "hatable" functionalities. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>One of the reason of the success of Unix is that it was written in a portable language: C. C and C++ have been used to program all Unices, Windows, Apple OS (With some Objective-C) etc...<br><br>On the other hand:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLISS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLISS</a><br><br>" It was perhaps the best known systems programming language right up until <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29" title="C (programming language)">C</a> made its debut a few years later. Since then, C took off and BLISS faded into obscurity."<br><br>Of course C was hatable in the 70s when VMS started to live. In the mean time not only it had improved a bit, but now the debate is not using C but C++ for this kind of things.<br><br>Remi<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>