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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Macro32 was part of VMS. I was not around when 64 bit vms was.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bliss32 is on the User pack.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Renee <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> FreeVMS [mailto:freevms-bounces@rayleigh.systella.fr] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Denis Reichert<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> FreeVMS mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FreeVMS] Wanted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 13/06/2013 10:44, BERTRAND Joël a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> Hello, <br><br> I have checked this morning and there are more than 1000 subscribers to this mailing list (even with hp.com mail address). HP says that, today, it remains only 2500 OpenVMS customers. Thus, a lot of VMS users read this mailing list. <br><br> Development was stalled for two years because I don't want to continue alone. I'll restart this project if and only if new contributers support parts of this OS. Haiku, ReactOS, Linux, *BSD are much more complex than a clone of VMS over microkernel and are actively developed for years. If we cannot found some developers to participate to this project, I suppose that OpenVMS will be definitely dead when HP will stop support. <br><br> I have shown that it is possible to write a kernel as a sum if L4 servers. 0.4 boots until process management but as pager is missing, it cannot launch tasks in virtual memory (sigma0 only maps physical memory in virtual memory without address translation). <br><br> Now, HP has announced OpenVMS death. I don't think that OpenVMS will be opensourced, and even if HP opensources OpenVMS, there will be a lot of stuff to obtain a usable operating system (Bliss, Macro32 and 64 have to be ported on new architectures). I'm not sure that rewrite a new OS is more difficult. <br><br> Today, FreeVMS 0.4 requires : <br>- a pager (FreeVMS/sources/freevms/vm/vm_pager.c) <br>- some drivers (console, hard disk, network) <br>- a swapper <br>- a command line <br>- some volunteers to keep webpages alive. <br><br> If anyone is interested, please answer to this mail. With more than 5 new and active developers, I think we can restart this project. <br><br> Regards, <br><br> JKB <br>_______________________________________________ <br>FreeVMS mailing list <br><a href="mailto:FreeVMS@rayleigh.systella.fr">FreeVMS@rayleigh.systella.fr</a> <br><a href="https://www.systella.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freevms">https://www.systella.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freevms</a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Universalis ADF Std","serif"'>Hello<br>I worked as a low level system programmer a long time ago but when I look today at LIB$ sources, F11 assembler manual, all this is still familiar to me.<br>I have never understood why ODS-like file versioning is not implemented into recent filesystems.<br>About web pages, is it not better to open a WordPress blog which is more modern, attractive, interactive and collaborative ?<br><br>Regards<br><br>Denis</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>